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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #410 on: December 27, 2020, 07:57:51 PM »
Ok I see it wasn't just me that had the weird crash and Series X turn off

https://www.reddit.com/r/XboxSeriesX/comments/ki1ln2/minecraft_farm_life_map_console_crash/?utm_source=BD&utm_medium=Search&utm_name=Bing&utm_content=PSR1

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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #411 on: December 29, 2020, 01:39:36 AM »
This entire launch has been a disaster that just keeps on going. I've had a few weird lockups when trying to restart where the console turns off but doesn't turn off(controller shuts off and the screen goes blank) but the X doesn't actually turn off. If I power up the controller during this it just blinks because the console is in some kind of limbo. Then there's the games list losing games which requires a restart which of course means I may see that no power off power off issue. Then the controller will lose sync after turning the console on sometimes. I grab the controller and turn on the X and then the controller starts blinking. It never connects and if I grab my spare and try that it's the same thing there too. I have to force the console to shut down to get it working again. Quick Resume is getting better but I still have issues with games there as well. I just don't understand how the One X was such a solid piece from day one and the bigger and better Series X is such a broken mess.
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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #412 on: December 29, 2020, 03:21:17 AM »
Speaking of controller disconnects, I was just loading into a game of DbD and I got a popup telling me the controller was disconnected. My first thought was that I missed the low battery message while I was getting something to drink but nope, it was blinking because it lost sync. I had to remove the cover and pull and replace a battery to get it to shut off so I could reconnect.
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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #413 on: January 13, 2021, 10:55:47 PM »
I hope they fix the controller disconnects soon because it's a pain in the ass playing DbD and just getting into a game and then have it start blinking because it lost sync. I have to remove the battery door, pop out a battery, put it back in, replace the door and then finally turn it on again. By this time I may have just enough time to start running because the killer is on me if I get a bad spawn.
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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #414 on: January 14, 2021, 03:05:24 AM »
Never had a controller disconnect until yesterday. I see my Series X updated on the 12th also.  :rolleyes2:

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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #415 on: January 16, 2021, 10:13:23 AM »
I have a feeling we're going to be dealing with issues for months to come. I also just read that the new consoles are getting attacked over power consumption.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2021-01-14-ps5-and-xbox-series-x-energy-consumption

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US environmental organisation warns against Xbox Series X, PS5 energy consumption

The NRDC calls for platform holders to ship their consoles with energy saving options enabled by default

The PlayStation 5 and the Xbox Series X each draw 160 to 200+ watts of electricity when used, which is higher than their predecessors and more power than a 60-inch TV.

That's according to the US' Natural Resources Defense Council, an environmental nonprofit organisation that measured the energy consumed by next-gen consoles and today published a lengthy report on the topic.

The report recognised the platform holders efforts to reduce power consumption when the consoles are in rest mode, only drawing one watt or lower when that's the case, but also highlighted the impact of features such as Xbox's Instant-on mode, which is enabled by default when the console ships.

"Based on modeling NRDC performed through 2025, this one seemingly inconsequential decision by Microsoft could result in the equivalent of one large (500 MW) coal-burning power plant's worth of annual electricity generation and cost new US Xbox owners roughly $1 billion on their electricity bills," wrote senior scientist at the NRDC Noah Horowitz.

"Given that there is very minimal user benefit from Instant-on, it's surprising that Microsoft -- which publicly announced that 'by 2030 Microsoft will be carbon negative... and launch an initiative around the world to help their suppliers and customers reduce their carbon footprints' -- does not ship its consoles with the energy savings option enabled by default (and perhaps remove the 'instant on' choice during the initial set-up). Such a change could happen almost overnight with just a few lines of new code."

The NRDC estimated that roughly two-thirds of users kept the default Instant-on mode enabled on their Xbox, and are "poised to waste almost four billion kilowatt hours of electricity in the US alone through the end of 2025 when in standby mode and not being used." That's approximately three million tons of carbon dioxide emissions, Horowitz added.

The organisation clarified that the power consumption of the latest consoles was particularly high when playing next-gen games, but "significantly lower when playing games designed for older consoles and are backward compatible." The Xbox Series S was also highlighted as a positive, as it drew lower power levels while playing a game than the other three next-gen consoles.

The report pointed out the high power consumption of streaming TV shows or films on the consoles, particularly when switching from playing a game to streaming a show.

"This may save a few seconds, but the console will draw between 30 and 70 watts -- about 10 to 25 times more power than a streaming device like Apple TV, Roku box, or Amazon Fire Stick to watch the same show. We have repeatedly urged Sony and Microsoft to include a dedicated low-power chip for video playback in their consoles, and this request is even more important today given the potential for long hours of 'binge watching' via the console."

Concluding its report, the NRDC called for Sony and Microsoft to conduct studies on how players use energy saving options on their consoles and "generate a public-facing report on national game console energy use, which hopefully will drive future energy reductions and carbon savings."

The report added: "Such a study should also take into account the energy and related carbon emissions caused by the increasingly popular cloud-based gaming, where much of the computing is happening off-site in energy intensive data centers."

Last year, GamesIndustry.biz talked to activists and experts about how game makers can rise to meet the challenge of climate change.
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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #416 on: January 16, 2021, 10:25:35 AM »
https://www.polygon.com/2021/1/14/22230943/ps5-xbox-series-x-s-power-consumption-study-nrdc

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Study chides PS5, Xbox Series X for default power settings

Backward compatibility, streaming apps use less power than on last-gen consoles

The PlayStation 5 and the Xbox Series S both use significantly more electricity than their predecessors when playing games designed for the new consoles, according to a report by the Natural Resources Defense Council, an environmental-advocacy group. However, the NRDC found that the new consoles draw less power than previous-generation systems when playing backward-compatible games, and while using streaming video apps.

The NRDC’s analysis — which it also performed in 2013 at the launch of the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 — praises the low-power modes that both Sony and Microsoft’s new consoles offer. The energy-saving modes allow users to resume full operation within 10 to 15 seconds while drawing less than 1 watt of electricity on standby. However, the NRDC criticized Microsoft and Sony for choosing not to make that the default power setting — the same charge that the organization levied about the PS4 and Xbox One.

The new Xboxes’ “Instant-on” mode still draws 10 watts in standby, said the NRDC. The report extrapolated that extra usage through 2025, and calculated that it could total 4 billion extra kilowatt-hours of energy — the equivalent of a single large, coal-burning power plant’s annual electricity generation.

The NRDC’s analysis used a PlayStation 5 and an Xbox Series S, which has less processing power than an Xbox Series X, and also doesn’t have an optical disc drive. The group said it was unable to obtain a Series X for full testing, but expects that the beefier console would use more energy than a Series S. Microsoft has not provided official power consumption figures for either console; Sony’s listed hardware specifications say that the standard PS5 is rated at a power draw of 350 watts, while the PS5 Digital Edition is slightly lower at 340 watts.

Sony’s new console won plaudits from the NRDC for its standby mode, which consumed 1 watt or less and allowed for booting up within 10 to 15 seconds. It did draw “a few extra watts” of power during the first three hours of standby in order to charge devices with its USB ports. But the PS5’s rechargeable DualSense controller was an environmentally preferable choice for the NRDC over the new Xbox gamepad, which ships with disposable batteries. (A rechargeable power supply for the controller is sold separately.)

The PS5’s standard power settings have the console shut off after one hour of inactivity for gaming, and after four hours for streaming content (both settings may be changed by users). That means the PlayStation 5 continues to draw about 70 watts of power if a user leaves it on after, say, watching some Netflix.

Even so, power consumption while using streaming apps, for both the PS5 and Xbox Series S, is lower than that of their predecessors — although the NRDC said that dedicated streaming devices use even less power for the same task. The PS4, according to the NRDC’s 2013 analysis, used 90 watts while streaming Netflix to the Xbox One’s 74 watts. The Series S consumed 31 watts to stream Netflix (and, inexplicably, 41 watts for Amazon Video), while the PS5 drew 68-70 watts to stream from both services.

Overall, though, the expected draw of 160-200 watts to play PS5 titles, or games optimized for the Xbox Series X, is more power than a 60-inch television set consumes, the NRDC said.

In 2013, the NRDC warned that the PS4 and Xbox One could be responsible for as much as three times more energy consumption than the preceding PS3 and Xbox 360 generation. In 2015, the organization said the Xbox One could be responsible for up to $250 million in additional annual electricity costs for U.S. households. The NRDC’s newest analysis warns that Xbox Series S or Series X owners in the U.S. could pay as much as $1 billion, combined, over the next five years, for the extra power those consoles use in their “Instant-on” mode versus the “Energy-saving” mode.

In 2015, after the NRDC sharply criticized the launch Xbox One’s power use, Microsoft added an energy-saving mode as an option when new Xbox One users first set up their consoles. At the time, Microsoft said the difference in power consumption between those two modes would save customers between $6 and $15 on their annual electricity bill. And the company released a software update in late November that reportedly reduced the power consumption of the Instant-on mode by as much as 61% for the Xbox Series X.

Polygon has reached out to representatives of Microsoft and Sony for additional comment.

This one is a bit off when it comes to the controllers I think. Is it really worse that the Xbox uses AA batteries over a non removable, not easily replaceable battery like the Playstation? Which is worse for the save the planet people, 2 AA batteries or a big chunk of plastic(which is also bad) with a big non removable battery inside being tossed in the trash because when the batteries are completely dead in a PS4/5 controller the average person is going to throw it away and get another one. If I was Microsoft I would start shipping with 2 rechargeable batteries and a mini charger just to annoy the people who do these articles.
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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #417 on: January 16, 2021, 11:11:37 AM »
Ridiculous.  :rolleyes2:

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« Reply #418 on: January 22, 2021, 02:16:04 PM »
I don't feel like creating a new topic for what will amount to just a few posts but did you see that Microsoft is raising the price of Gold to $120.00/year? That is insane. PS+ is $60.00 for a year and people bitched when it went from the original $50.00 to that price. Now I'll take a guess that Sony will soon follow and do the same which means I'll either end up dropping PS+ if they do or I'll be paying over $200.00/year just for online services for 2 consoles. I really wish we were allowed to stack more than 3 years of Gold/Game Pass because I'll bet GP goes up at some point soon too unless this is a ploy to get everyone to drop Gold for GP since the pricing isn't much different now.

Gold - $120.00
GP - $180.00

Hundreds of games to play for $60.00 a year looks like a massive bargain now over when Gold was $60.00 for a year.
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Re: Xbox Series X (Holiday 2020)
« Reply #419 on: January 24, 2021, 07:53:09 PM »
I know we just talked about this while playing F13 but I did notice a weird thing in regards to my games count. I know we were talking about games vanishing while playing them but what I saw wasn't that but it was similar. I went to my games list and the count was at 256 games and then while I was watching the number changed to 85 games. I then went and looked at my full games list to see if all these "missing" games were now ready to install but they weren't. They were still installed. I then leave that area and go to the dash and then right back and now all the games are showing as ready to install. I end up rebooting and they start to show again but it takes almost 10 minutes for everything to finally show. This was that same night. Now I just turn my X on a few minutes ago and I'm again only showing 91 games installed. This is getting ridiculous.
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