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betterdan

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Amazon Sidewalk
« on: June 08, 2021, 04:58:35 AM »
Did you hear about this new thing on Amazon devices that is supposed to start today? Apparently it is turned on by default on all Amazon devices. It lets all the Amazon devices in your house and your neighbors connect to each other. Pretty cool idea to make a huge mesh network for Amazon devices but I don't trust it.
I just turned it off by following the instructions here.

https://knowtechie.com/how-to-disable-amazon-sidewalk-neighborhood-wifi-sharing/#:~:text=Here%E2%80%99s%20how%20to%20turn%20off%20Amazon%20Sidewalk%201,the%20toggle%20button%20to%20make%20it%20say%20Disabled


Are you going to leave it on or turn it off?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2021, 05:20:48 AM by betterdan »

Chris

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Re: Amazon Sidewalk
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2021, 01:26:56 PM »
Funny you posted this as I was going to as well. I was thinking about leaving it on but I'm the same, I don't know if I trust it. For now I also have it turned off until I hear more about it.

I don't care about the internet usage I'm just more concerned about if someone can hack this mesh setup.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2021, 01:34:10 PM by Chris »

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Re: Amazon Sidewalk
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2021, 02:17:12 PM »
I wonder how my xFi security features would hold up against an attempted hack if it were to happen. I use it and every so often when I attempt to load a random website I'll be warned by xFi that the page is bad. I have a post showing this somewhere around the forum. It does actually protect everything on the network including things like Dots so I may be safe to run Sidewalk if I want to.

https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/getting-started-with-xfinity-xfi-advanced-security

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Getting Started with Xfinity xFi Advanced Security
Xfinity xFi Advanced Security delivers a smarter, more personalized security solution for your home network. From computers and mobile phones to home security cameras and smart thermostats, Advanced Security protects all of your connected devices for added peace of mind.

Advanced Security is available at no cost to Xfinity Internet subscribers who rent a compatible xFi Gateway.

Features and Benefits

Features

    Prevents you from inadvertently visiting malicious sites and becoming a victim of phishing attacks.
    Blocks remote access to smart devices, like home cameras, from known dangerous sources.
    Helps monitor devices real-time and alerts you when devices are behaving in unusual ways that could indicate a network threat.
    Adapts to your home network and gets smarter to keep up with new threats over time.
    Provides real-time notifications and a dashboard to easily view and manage threats right from the Xfinity app or website.

Benefits

    No additional hardware to install; all you need is a compatible xFi Gateway.
    No software to install on your individual devices; your entire network is protected, once Advanced Security is enabled.

Getting Access

You can turn on Advanced Security from the Connect tab in both the Xfinity app and the xFi website. Simply click on the Advanced Security tile and follow the steps to enable Advanced Security.

Note: It may take up to 10 minutes to fully enable Advanced Security.

To view the Advanced Security Dashboard, select the Advanced Security tile from the Connect tab. Learn more about using xFi Advanced Security and Comcast's commitment to Privacy and Security.

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Re: Amazon Sidewalk
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2021, 05:09:13 PM »
https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360032492292-Amazon-Sidewalk-Information

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What is Amazon Sidewalk?

Amazon Sidewalk is a shared network that helps devices work better. Operated by Amazon at no charge to customers, Sidewalk can help simplify new device setup, extend the low-bandwidth working range of devices, and help devices stay online even if they are outside the range of their home wifi. In the future, Sidewalk will support a range of experiences from using Sidewalk-enabled devices to help find pets or valuables, to smart security and lighting, to diagnostics for appliances and tools.

What are the benefits of joining Amazon Sidewalk?

Amazon Sidewalk helps your devices get connected and stay connected. For example, if your Echo device loses its wifi connection, Sidewalk can simplify reconnecting to your router. For select Ring devices, you can continue to receive motion alerts from your Ring Security Cams and customer support can still troubleshoot problems even if your devices lose their wifi connection. Sidewalk can also extend the working range for your Sidewalk-enabled devices, such as Ring smart lights, pet locators or smart locks, so they can stay connected and continue to work over longer distances. Amazon does not charge any fees to join Sidewalk.

How much does Amazon Sidewalk cost?

Joining Sidewalk is free and there are no monthly fees or other associated costs charged by Amazon (or Ring) for your device to be Sidewalk-enabled.

How does Amazon Sidewalk work?

Sidewalk works by sharing a little bit of your internet bandwidth with your neighbors. By combining it with bandwidth donated by others in the neighborhood, Sidewalk creates a low-bandwidth, low-power network that can be used by neighbors to help one another in new ways. With Sidewalk you can enjoy faster setup of your Ring devices, extend your device's working range, and keep your devices online even if there's a network outage.

What does "sharing bandwidth" mean? Will it slow down my existing internet in my home?

No. Sidewalk creates an additional mechanism that helps devices in a neighborhood remain connected by creating a separate communal network with bandwidth that is borrowed from and shared by neighbors connected to Sidewalk. The amount borrowed from your network is minimal.

This bandwidth is available for devices when your normal internet connection isn’t available. If your home internet goes down or a temporary internet issue causes a device to go offline, your Sidewalk-enabled devices can automatically reroute and connect to a nearby Sidewalk network powered by neighbors in the community, keeping Sidewalk devices operational with limited functionality until normal connectivity is restored.

Is Amazon Sidewalk a public wifi network? Can anyone log on?

No. Sidewalk is only accessible via devices that are authorized by Amazon to work on  Sidewalk. 

Does being connected to Amazon Sidewalk mean my neighbors will have access to my cameras or videos?

No. It is not possible for other members of Sidewalk to access your cameras or videos.

Is Amazon Sidewalk a replacement for a home wifi network?

No. Sidewalk Bridges require wifi access for normal operation. When Sidewalk is on, your Bridge can share a low-bandwidth connection with Sidewalk-enabled devices, like sensors and Ring Smart Lights that are installed in locations around and outside your home where wifi may not be available. Amazon Sidewalk does not support high-bandwidth connections like a wifi or cellular network would, so you would still use those connections for streaming movies, posting on social media, or sending email.

How do you protect my privacy while I'm a part of Amazon Sidewalk?

Sidewalk is designed with multiple layers of privacy and security to secure data traveling on the network and to keep you safe and in control. There are also controls available that allow you to opt-out of Sidewalk at any time.

Can law enforcement, Amazon, or Ring log on or get any information out of an Amazon Sidewalk network?

Data traveling between devices, gateways, Amazon Sidewalk, and the Amazon cloud is encrypted to ensure that only you or those you have granted permission to have access to your information.   

What specifically can I do with Amazon Sidewalk? What are the benefits of joining?

Amazon Sidewalk makes it possible for neighbors to work together to keep their devices connected to the internet. Should your device go offline, Sidewalk makes it possible for you to obtain diagnostic information about and continue to have certain functionality  for your offline device through its connection to Sidewalk.

Other devices and features are currently under development and will be revealed as they become ready.

Do I have to join Amazon Sidewalk if I have a Ring device?

No. Use this link to learn more about opting in and out of Amazon Sidewalk.

What geographic areas have access to Amazon Sidewalk?

At the moment, Sidewalk is only available in the United States. As it becomes available in other areas, we will inform our neighbors here and through Ring.com

How many Ring devices do I have to have before I can join Amazon Sidewalk?

You only need one Sidewalk-enabled device to use Sidewalk, though the more Sidewalk Bridges that are in the network, the stronger it becomes.

I have a Ring Video Doorbell Pro/Ring Video Doorbell Pro 2, is it compatible with Amazon Sidewalk?

Your Ring Video Doorbell Pro or Ring Video Doorbell Pro 2 may be compatible with Sidewalk. You can check whether or not your device is compatible by looking at its serial number. If the serial number begins with "BHL3" or has "15N" it is Sidewalk compatible now. If it starts with "BHL1" or "BHL2"

Sidewalk will be available on that device in the coming months.

What are Amazon Sidewalk Bridges, and which devices are able to become Bridges?

Sidewalk Bridges are devices that provide connections to Amazon Sidewalk. Today, Sidewalk Bridges include many Echo devices and select Ring Floodlight and Spotlight Cams.

If you need to find out the name of your Ring device, you can find out in the Ring app use this link to see step-by-step instructions.   

A comprehensive list of Amazon Sidewalk devices includes:

    Ring Floodlight Cam (2019)
    Ring Spotlight Cam Wired (2019)
    Ring Spotlight Cam Mount (2019)
    Echo (3rd Gen and newer)
    Echo Dot (3rd Gen and newer)
    Echo Dot (3rd Gen and newer) for Kids
    Echo Dot with Clock (3rd Gen and newer)
    Echo Plus (All generations)
    Echo Show (2nd Gen and newer)
    Echo Spot
    Echo Studio
    Echo Input
    Echo Flex

I was looking at turning it off on my doorbell but that section of the app just did nothing. I kept tapping it but it was like the button was dead. I have a Ring Doorbell 3(not a pro model) so for now it's apparently not compatible. That's probably why the button did nothing, or at least I hope so.

betterdan

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Re: Amazon Sidewalk
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2021, 08:13:46 PM »
If I had something that might benefit from it then I might leave it on. Like for instance if my dog had something in it's collar where you could find it if it got loose(I think I read something about an Amazon device for that). Now that would really be cool and helpful if it could check in with anyone's wfi and let you know the location.

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Re: Amazon Sidewalk
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2021, 08:58:21 PM »
I bet you're thinking of Tile. I was looking at those earlier when someone else was talking about the benefits of using Sidewalk.



https://www.thetileapp.com/en-us/

On Amazon you see a lot of pictures with people putting them on their cat collars.

https://www.amazon.com/Tile-RE-19001-Mate-1-Pack/dp/B07W9BBCTB